Just have to share my experience. Xstitched few yrs ago, then quit, took it up again &just love it, but I was struggling with my stitches, so didn't seem so fun, then I decide to try 11count on my patterns, had to re-calculate patterns, but don't care because FUN again. Now can do charts I've been putting back, so if having trouble, try a smaller count, needles even better to use, as they say, happy stitching👏😍🎉